zanzi Posted September 5 · Member Share Posted September 5 Very cool pin! I've seen them around but never bought myself one yet. This is pushing 17 hours so I'll jump it going again Thailand (Siam) Porcelain Token O: Xing Fa R: Fuang Ramsden #6, Hartill PGP #1621, Zeno #331448 Next: a non-metal currency or token 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted September 5 · Member Share Posted September 5 Supposed to be a deer bone imitation of a cowrie shell, 1200-700 BC. Next- more non metal currencies 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 5 · Supporter Share Posted September 5 (edited) Manchukuo ‘Ruler": 康德, Kang De Year: 12 (1945) Av: top: 滿洲帝國, mǎn zhōu dì guó (Manchu Empire) Centre: 5, two dots bottom: 康德十二年, kāng dé shí èr nián (Kang De, year 12) Rv: 五分, wǔ fēn 5 (Fen), wreath pattern Value: 5 Fen Material: Fibre, 19.35mm, 0.94g Literature: KM Y#A13a next: same theme, non metal currencies Edited September 5 by shanxi 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted September 5 · Member Share Posted September 5 A 1921 porcelain coin from Germany, 50 Pfennig Notgeld (emergency issue) of Saxony. Next- a coin or seal made of lead. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanzi Posted September 5 · Member Share Posted September 5 China, Northern Song Dynasty (in name, at least) 998 to 1004 AD - or later Lead cash - 3.5 grams - 23mm Xian Ping Yuan Bao Cast as a off-metal regional issue, either in Northern Song times or the following centuries. Unpublished in English resources, see it on Zeno.ru for more details and a few other specimens 340973 Next: an unpublished coin (no matter how small the detail) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 6 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 6 6 hour rule. But here's one that was unpublished until about a decade ago. Next: more confronted busts from Moesia Inferior. Elagabalus and Julia Soaemias [his mother], AE Pentassarion [5 Assaria], 218-222 AD, Marcianopolis, Moesia Inferior [now Devnya, Bulgaria] (Iulius Antonius Seleucus, Consular Legate) (legatus Augusti pro praetore). Obv. Confronted busts of Elagabalus right, laureate, facing Julia Soaemias left, bareheaded and draped, ΑΥΤ Κ Μ ΑVΡ ΑΝΤΩΝΕΙ[ΝΟ]Ϲ ΑVΓ ΙΟΥΛΙΑ ϹΟΥΑΙΜΙϹ around from 7:00 o’clock / Rev. Homonoia* standing, draped, head left, holding patera in outstretched right hand and cornucopiae in left, ΥΠ ΙΟΥΛ ΑΝΤ ϹΕΛΕΥΚΟΥ ΜΑΡΚΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΙΤΩΝ around from 7:00, E [mark of value for “5”]** in left field beneath patera. 27.2 mm., 10.41 g. (broken die at 12:00 on obverse). RPC [Roman Provincial Coinage] VI Online 1448 (temp.) (see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/1448) [6 examples, including this coin as example no. 6; see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/474175 ]; Hristova & Jekov 6.27.36.2 [Rarity 7 on 1-10 scale] [Nina Hristova and Gospodin Jekov, The Coins of Moesia Inferior I-III c. A.C. MARCIANOPOLIS (2d ed. 2014)]; Pfeiffer 507.40 [Pfeiffer, H.-J., Die römischen Münzen aus Markianopolis: Sammlung H.-J. Pfeiffer (Kaarst, 2013)]; Varbanov I - ; AMNG I - ; Moushmov - ; BMC 3 Moesia -. [The type was unpublished until it was first listed in Pfeiffer (whether in the 2011 1st ed. or the 2013 2nd ed. is unclear) and then in Hristova & Jekov (the 2014 2nd ed.).] Purchased from Kölner Münzkabinett, Cologne, Germany, Auction 121, 12 April 2024, Lot 185.*** *Homonoia (“Agreement” in Greek), was “the Greek equivalent of the Roman personification Concordia, usually shown in art standing by an altar with the attributes of a patera, branch or corn ear. Greek Imperial [i.e., Roman Provincial] coins occasionally announce a homonoia between two (or occasionally three) cities, which indicates that they had agreed to a religious and perhaps to an economic union of some kind.” John Melville Jones, A Dictionary of Ancient Greek Coins (London, Seaby, 1986) at p. 116 [entry for “Homonoia”]. See also https://www.theoi.com/Daimon/Homonoia.html (“HOMONOIA was the personified spirit (daimona) of concord, unanimity and oneness of mind”). On this type, in addition to a patera, Homonoia holds a cornucopiae, an attribute associated with a large number of specifically Roman personifications, including Concordia. See John Melville Jones, A Dictionary of Ancient Roman Coins (London, Seaby, 1999) at p. 72 (entry for “Cornucopiae”). Note that Wikipedia, citing various sources, states that “[i]n ancient Roman religion, Concordia (mean[ing] ‘concord’ or ‘harmony’ in Latin) is the goddess who embodies agreement in marriage and society. Her Greek equivalent is usually regarded as Harmonia, with musical harmony a metaphor for an ideal of social concord or entente in the political discourse of the Republican era. She was thus often associated with Pax (‘Peace’) in representing a stable society. As such, she is more closely related to the Greek concept of homonoia (likemindedness), which was also represented by a goddess.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordia_(mythology) (footnotes omitted.) The distinction, if any, between Harmonia and Homonoia by the time of the Imperial era is probably not important for the interpretation of Roman Provincial Coins: an online search of all volumes of RPC yields 817 results for Homonoia and only one for Harmonia. **I realize that it looks more like a Z than an E, but unless it's an engraver's error, a Z ( which = 7) would make no sense. I'm not aware of any 7 assaria coins! ***Regarding the rarity of the Marcianopolis pentassaria with confronted busts of Elagabalus and Julia Soaemias, see Curtis L. Clay’s comment on the subject, reproduced in the Numiswiki entry for the Pfeiffer catalog (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Pfeiffer), and originally posted in 2016 on the Forvm Ancient Coins discussion boards. He states that “Pfeiffer's catalogue illustrates the wealth of material from this mint that has become available on the international numismatic market since the fall of the Iron Curtain in 1989,” and, as an example, points out that Pfeiffer’s 2011 first edition lists “Six coins with the rare portrait combination, Elagabalus and Julia Soaemias, from four different obv. dies and with six rev. types. AMNG 979-81 knew only four coins of Elagabalus and Soaemias in all the world's collections, from two obv. dies and with three rev. types!” See also Curtis L. Clay’s comments on the Forvm discussion boards on June 14, 2010 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=63627.msg396757#msg396757) (“Soaemias is rare at Marcianopolis, only four obv. dies for her and Elagabalus in my photofile”), and on June 21, 2007 (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=38277.msg242370#msg242370 ) (explaining that “Soaemias was dropped from the coinage” in Marcianopolis early in the reign of Elagabalus). Even now, in 2024, as noted in text, RPC VI records only 6 specimens of RPC VI 1448 with the Homonoia reverse (including my example, added to RPC following the recent Kölner Münzkabinett auction), plus another 5 specimens of RPC VI 1449, a variant on which Elagabalus’s bust is draped and cuirassed. (ACSearch currently lists a total of only four specimens with the Homonoia reverse -- two depicting Elagabalus with a cuirass and two without -- although my specimen will presumably be added at some point.) In addition, at RPC VI 1443-1447 and 1450-1453, RPC VI lists small numbers of Marcianopolis pentassaria with the same Elagabalus/Julia Soaemias obverse design -- struck from the same four obverse dies -- but with different reverses, specifically Ares (1 known specimen), Asclepius (1), Athena (3), Apollo (6), Hermes (7), Hygieia (3), and Sarapis (7). 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted September 6 · Patron Share Posted September 6 (edited) Severus Alexander and Julia Mamaea, 222-235 CE. Roman provincial Æ pentassarion, 10.1 g, 25.7 mm, 5 h. Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis, magistrate Umbrius Tereventinus, 226-227 CE. Obv: ΑVΓ ΚΜ Α[VΡ CΕVΗ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟC ΚΑΙ] ΙΟVΛΙΑ ΜΑΜΑΙΑ, confronted busts. Rev: ΗΓ Ȣ [ΤΕΡΕΒΕΝΤΙΝΟV ΜΑΡ]ΚΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΙΤ-ΩΝ, Dikaiosyne standing l., holding scales and cornucopiae, E (5) in field, r. Refs: AMNG --; Moushmov --; Varbanov --; BMC --; Sear --; SNG Cop --; SNG von Aulock --; Lindgren --. Next: Unlisted in the standard references. Edited September 6 by Roman Collector I have OCD 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAg47 Posted September 6 · Member Share Posted September 6 I could never find this specific style on Price, Zeus' legs are neither straight nor crossed, but kind of manspreading. If anyone can give me the correct reference, I'll remove this post. Alexander III posthumous issue, 4 grams. Lysimachus, 305-281 BC, KINGDOM OF THRACE. Next- Alexander III 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted September 6 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 6 Next: Herakles 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted September 6 · Supporter Share Posted September 6 On 9/4/2024 at 2:26 PM, DonnaML said: Some non-milled US exonumia from 1928. The pinback button on the left belonged to my father, who was then 8 years old. Next: more exonumia (of any kind) depicting one or more U.S. presidents or presidential candidates. My father used to tell me the kids at his school used to chant "Al Smith , Al Smith,ring the bell! Hoover , Hoover, go to hell!" His teachers were not pleased! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanzi Posted September 6 · Member Share Posted September 6 My only Herakles for now Alexander III (the Great) of Macedon (posthumous), issued under Philip III Arrhidaios Kolophon Mint, 323 to 319 BC - 4.10 grams, 16mm, Price 1750 O: Head of Hercules right, wearing a lion's skin R: Zeus seated left with an eagle and sceptre, horizontal corn grain left, spearhead right, AΛEΞANΔPOY Next: anything related to grains, wheat, bread, maize, etc 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 6 · Supporter Share Posted September 6 (edited) Elaia Asia Minor, Aiolis 340-300 BC Obv.: Head of Athena left, wearing crested Corinthian helmet Rev.: Ε - Λ, Corn grain within olive wreath. Æ, 1.25g, 11.7mm Ref.: SNG Copenhagen 171-172, BMC 126 11, SNG Muenchen 386 Next: plant (or part) within wreath EDIT after 13h: Any type of plant Edited September 6 by shanxi 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanzi Posted September 6 · Member Share Posted September 6 Any type of plant? How about a patch of grass. This coin has a cannon atop a hill of grass, I cheekily called it "a grassy knoll with a cannon" when I put this coin on Numista. There is also some kind of styled bush or hedge above the hole on obverse Indonesia - Malaysia private Wayang Gobog religious token Cribb #232, probably mid 20th century. 30 grams at 54mm O: Noble man Panji holding a kris (sword) right, noble woman left touching the stand of rice above, foliage at top, below two mounds atop a grassy knoll with a cannon. R: Male servant Doyok-Merdah left, holding a spear, male servant Bancak-Tualen right, holding a spear, both in a square frame, bowl below, above an Arabic legend "Yasin" Next: another coin or token showing a projectile weapon 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 7 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7 A spear: Roman Republic, C. Postumius, AR Denarius, Rome 74 BCE. Obv. Bust of Diana R. w/ bow and quiver, figure of stag’s head at end of bow (horns to left) / Rev. Hound running R., hunting spear below, “C POSTUMI TA” [TA in monogram] in exergue. RSC I Postumia 9, Crawford 394/1a, Sear RCV I 330, Harlan, RRM I Ch. 18 at pp. 109-112, BMCRR Rome 3238. 18 mm., 3.83 g. Next: another dog (including but not limited to hounds). 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted September 7 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 7 (edited) LAKONIA. Lakedaimon (Sparta). Circa 35-31 BC. Dupondius (Bronze, 25 mm, 5.68 g, 10 h), Timandros, ephor. [E TIMA]NΔPOC Laureate head of Apollo to right. Rev. Λ-A Artemis standing front, head to left, holding patera in her right hand and spear in her left; at feet to left, hunting dog standing left; in field to right, monogram; all within wreath. BCD Peloponnesos 912-913. Grunauer XIX, Series 2. Rare. Very fine. From an American collection and previously from an Australian collection, Leu Web Auction 10, 7-8 December 2019, 292. Next: more Sparta Edited September 7 by Ryro 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIF Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 LACONIA, Lakedaimon (Sparta) 80-50 BCE AR triobol, 2.29 gm Obv: Head of Herakles right Rev: Amphora; to each side, caps of the Dioscuri; all within laurel wreath Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 868 Next: Peloponessus 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 Argos AR-Obol, 330-270 v.Chr Obv.: Av: Head of wolf right Rev: Large A; Π-P across upper field, club right below; all within incuse square. BCD Peloponnesos 1085, SNG Copenhagen -; BMC Peloponnesus pg. 143, 93. Next: Greek coin with a pattern of crystallisation on the surface. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIF Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 THRACO-MACEDONIAN REGION, Uncertain Circa 480-450 BCE Tetartemorion (?), AR 6 mm, 0.28 gm Obv: Monkey squatting left Rev: Round shield within incuse square Ref: "Uncertain Thraco-Macedonian Coins, Part lI", Nomismatila Khronika (1998, Tzamalis), 67. Very rare. From HIB Mobility Ill Auction, lot 28, Sept. 2015 Next: ancient coin with diameter of 7 mm or less 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted September 7 · Member Share Posted September 7 Taras, Calabria 272-235 BC AR 3/8 Obol (6mm, 0.16g) O: Two cresents back to back; two pellets above and below. R: Two cresents back to back; two pellets above and below. D'Andrea XLIV, 1609c (this coin); Vlasto 1758; McGill II, 216; HN Italy 1077; Sear 361v ex Roma Numismatics D'Andrea plate coin, Series XLIV, 1609c Next: an ancient coin over 39mm 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted September 7 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7 EGYPT. ALEXANDRIA. Ptolemy IV 221-205 BC AE Drachma. (75.52g, 41mm, 12h) Obverse: Bust of Zeus Ammon right Reverse: ΠΤΟΛΕΜΑΙΟΥ ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ, Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, cornucopiae in front, ΛΙ between legs Reference: SNG Cop 199. Next: Zeus Ammon 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIF Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 EGYPT, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius AE drachm, uncertain regnal year Obv: laureate bust right Rev: Bust of Zeus Ammon right; L I (date uncertain) Ref: Dattari-Savio pl. 153 #8807 (this coin); Emmett 1700.10, R5- Note: I think D-S has the date wrong. Hard to tell but I think this is year 18. Ex Robert L. Grover Collection of Roman-Egyptian Coinage, previously held by the Art Institute of Chicago Ex Dattari Collection (Giovanni Dattari, 1853-1923) Next: another Zeus-Ammon 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 7 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7 Antoninus Pius Billon Tetradrachm, Year 12 (148-149 AD), Alexandria, Egypt Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, ΑΝΤѠΝ(Ɛ)ΙΝΟϹ ϹƐΒ ƐVϹƐΒ (beginning at 2:00) / Draped bust of Zeus-Ammon right, crowned with disk [partially off flan], L ΔѠΔƐ - ΚΑΤΟV [Year 12 spelled out] (clockwise from lower left). RPC IV.4 Online 13625 [temporary number] (see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/13625) [this coin is Specimen 13, ex Emporium Hamburg 71, 8 May 2014, lot 186; see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/112517] ; Emmett 1442.12; Milne 1972 at p. 47 [Milne, J.G., Catalogue of Alexandrian Coins (Oxford 1933, reprint with supplement by Colin M. Kraay, 1971)]; Dattari (Savio) 2408; Köln (Geissen) 1588; Sear RCV II 4360. 23 mm., 12.60 g. (Purchased from Herakles Numismatics, Sept 2020). Next, another Roman Alexandrian tetradrachm depicting Zeus on the reverse. This time, plain old Zeus, not Zeus Ammon. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIF Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 Another from a large mixed lot 🙂. This one needs to go in the reshoot pile along with most coins I bought those first couple of years. EGYPT, Alexandria. Lucius Verus year 4, CE 163/4 tetradrachm, 24 mm, 13.4 gm Obv: ΛAVPHΛI OVHPOCCEB; bare head right Rev: laureate bust of Zeus right; L-Δ Ref: Emmett 2367 (4), R1 Another delightful find in large mixed lot, Stack's Bowers Nov. 2013 Next: a syncretion of Zeus + ___________ (not Ammon) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted September 7 · Supporter Share Posted September 7 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TIF said: Another from a large mixed lot 🙂. This one needs to go in the reshoot pile along with most coins I bought those first couple of years. EGYPT, Alexandria. Lucius Verus year 4, CE 163/4 tetradrachm, 24 mm, 13.4 gm Obv: ΛAVPHΛI OVHPOCCEB; bare head right Rev: laureate bust of Zeus right; L-Δ Ref: Emmett 2367 (4), R1 Another delightful find in large mixed lot, Stack's Bowers Nov. 2013 Next: a syncretion of Zeus + ___________ (not Ammon) a syncretion of Zeus + Serapis (not Ammon) Egypt, Alexandria. Nero. AD 54-68. BI Tetradrachm, Dated RY 10 (AD 63/64). Obv: NEPΩ KΛAV KAIΣ ΣEB ΓEP, radiate head right Rev: AYTO KPA, draped bust of Serapis right, wearing taenia and calathus; L I (date) before. Ref: Köln 160–1; Dattari (Savio) 251–2; K&G 14.77 corr. (obv. legend); RPC I 5274; Emmett 133.10 This is the first Alexandrian Tet of Nero to feature Zeus Sarapis, the greatest deity of the Greco-Egyptian pantheon. This bust of Zeus Serapis is a Roman copy of a 4th century BC Greek bust from the Serapaeum of Alexandria. Next: more from Egypt Edited September 7 by Sulla80 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted September 7 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 7 5 minutes ago, Sulla80 said: a syncretion of Zeus + Serapis (not Ammon) Egypt, Alexandria. Nero. AD 54-68. BI Tetradrachm, Dated RY 10 (AD 63/64). Obv: NEPΩ KΛAV KAIΣ ΣEB ΓEP, radiate head right Rev: AYTO KPA, draped bust of Serapis right, wearing taenia and calathus; L I (date) before. Ref: Köln 160–1; Dattari (Savio) 251–2; K&G 14.77 corr. (obv. legend); RPC I 5274; Emmett 133.10 This is the first Alexandrian Tet of Nero to feature Zeus Sarapis, the greatest deity of the Greco-Egyptian pantheon. This bust of Zeus Serapis is a Roman copy of a 4th century BC Greek bust from the Serapaeum of Alexandria. Next: more from Egypt I have always thought of Serapis as a combination of Osiris and the bull Apis. Where does Zeus come in, and how does this depiction differ from the usual representations of Serapis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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