Benefactor Steve Posted September 3, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) "another FEL TEMP barbarian and hut" => Here are 2 of my ol' hut-coins ... Constans. Æ Centenionalis Nicomedia mint, 2nd officina. Struck AD 348-350 AD 337-350 Diameter: 20.5 mm Weight: 2.84 grams Obverse: Pearl-diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust left, holding globe Reverse: Soldier advancing right, head left, holding spear and leading boy away from hut; SMNB Reference: RIC VIII 70; LRBC 2291 Other: 12h … VF, brown, porous surfaces => Dramatic double strike on reverse Ex-stevex6 Constans AE3 Date: 337-350 AD Diameter: 19.6 mm Weight: 4.7 grams Obverse: D N CONSTANS P F AVG - Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Constans, holding globe Reverse: FEL TEMP REPARATIO - Soldier, holding spear, leading barbarian from hut under tree Reference: RIC 103 (Aquileia?) Other: Doug Smith figures it is RIC 92 (Constantinople) … so does victor Ex-stevex6 NEXT => a Rooster Edited September 3, 2022 by Steve 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 Pisidia, Antioch 'Pseudo-autonomous': Reign of Antoninus Pius. Obv.: ANTIOCHI ; head of Mên wearing Phrygian cap, r., on crescent Rev.: COLONIAE, Rooster standing right. AE, 12mm, 1.35g Ref.: Krzyżanowska 141, IX.11, RPC IV.3 №: 7352 (temporary) Next: Pisidia 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted September 3, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) "Pisidia" Ummm, sorry for hogging the thread, but I couldn't resist jumping back in ... => Pisidia Pisidia, Selge AR Stater 325-250 BC Diameter: 24.1 mm Weight: 9.43 grams Obverse: Two wrestlers grappling, K between Reverse: Slinger; triskels above, club and cornucopia right Reference: Other: Obverse die slightly corroded, dark toning Ex-stevex6 NEXT => how 'bout some Elephants!! Sidenote: eh-heh-heh, maybe it's a bit too late to be asking now, but when it's my turn to pick the "next-coin", I pick whatever comes to mind ... but am I supposed to pick something that was similar to the coin that I just posted, or can I post whatever I want?? (hopefully I haven't been playing incorrectly during these past 77 pages of this cool thread??) Hi Edited September 3, 2022 by Steve 11 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, Steve said: NEXT => how 'bout some Elephants!! Silver Denarius of the Roman Republic from Gaius Caecillius Metellus Capraius Give me please more Elephants. 10 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 Seleukid Kingdom. Sardeis. Antiochos III Megas 223-187 BC. Bronze Æ 12 mm., 1,96 g. Obv - Laureate head of Apollo right, with spiral curls Rev - Legend: BAΣΙΛΕΩΣ ANTIOXOY (vertical left and right), monogram above elephant Type: Elephant standing left Next - another 4 legged animal 51 minutes ago, Steve said: Sidenote: eh-heh-heh, maybe it's a bit too late to be asking now, but when it's my turn to pick the "next-coin", I pick whatever comes to mind ... but am I supposed to pick something that was similar to the coin that I just posted, or can I post whatever I want?? (hopefully I haven't been playing incorrectly during these past 77 pages of this cool thread??) No, I think it's OK. I like to use a similar theme for a next coin and I think it's better this way, to have some kind of continuity, but I don't think this was a rule. 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted September 3, 2022 · Patron Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve said: Sidenote: eh-heh-heh, maybe it's a bit too late to be asking now, but when it's my turn to pick the "next-coin", I pick whatever comes to mind ... but am I supposed to pick something that was similar to the coin that I just posted, or can I post whatever I want?? (hopefully I haven't been playing incorrectly during these past 77 pages of this cool thread??) It's not a formal rule here, but the idea is to have some continuity between the coins, like a never-ending game of Crazy 8s. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 Thessaly, KrannonCirca 350 to 300 BCAE Dichalkon | 3.92 grams | 12mm wideObv: Zeus or Poseidon rightRev: Horseman left, KP-A-N Next: another coin from any fourth century 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted September 3, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) "another coin from any fourth century" => Thrace Abdera Thrace, Abdera: AE16 ca. 400-350 BC Diameter: 16.2 mm Weight: 3.40 grams Obverse: Griffin seated right on club; caduceus right above; ]IΛIΣ[ below; EP before Reverse: Head of Apollo right in linear square, ABΔ-HPI-TE-ΩN surrounding. Reference: BMC Thrace p75, 84 (see note below); AMNG II 227 (see note below); cf. SNG Copenhagen 374 Other: cool Ex-stevex6 NEXT => Ummm, bring-on another Gryphon (Griffin) ... winner, right? Cheers Edited September 3, 2022 by Steve 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edessa Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 Lucania. Metapontum, circa 330-290 BC. AR Nomos (22mm, 7.76g, 2h). Obv: Wreathed head of Demeter right, wearing triple-pendant earring and necklace; [EY] below chin. Rev: META, ear of barley with seven grains, leaf to right; star above leaf, LU lower left. Ref: Johnston Class C, 8.7 (same dies); SNG ANS 418 (same obverse die); HN Italy 1592. Very Fine lightly toned, nice metal. Ex VAuctions 226 (30 Apr 2009), Lot 3. Next: More Metapontum. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Sorry Edessa, but I think Steves griffin was first. Kilikia Uncertain Persian King AR Obol, 400-350 BC Obv.: Head of female facing slightly left Rev: King with bow and quiver, stabbing griffin on hind legs with knife AR, 0.63g, 10,3mm Ref.: Göktürk 38 Same dies as CNG 70, Lot 362 Next: Persia or Metapontum Edited September 3, 2022 by shanxi 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanG Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 A somewhat grubby siglos. Persia, Achaemenid Empire. Time of Darios I to Xerxes II, circa 485-420 BC. AR Siglos, Sardes. Persian king kneeling-running right, holding spear and bow, quiver over shoulder / Incuse punch. ATEC 1945-1960; Carradice16-31. 5.65g, 15mm. NEXT: A non-Persian incuse punch. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis JJ Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Here's a non-Persian incuse punch (took me a minute to find one) -- a Lesbian incuse punch: (Photo credit: CNG.)Lesbos, Koinon BI 1/48 Stater (5.5mm, 0.26g), c. 525-513 BCE.Obv: Two eyes (or possibly two grains or shields?).Rev: Quadratum incusum.Ref: Waggoner-Rosen 548 (this coin illustrated).Collection Hist.: Jonathan P. Rosen [NFA Winter 1987 MBS (18 Dec 1987), 579 (part, not ill.), desc. by Lorber as “Probably a small hoard”]; William B. Porter [CNG EA 494 (23 Jun 2021), 196]. Institutional Hist.: J. Paul Getty Museum, housed c. 1983-1987, among 773 coins cataloged by Waggoner (below), 100 exhibited and 50 cataloged in Archaic Coins: An Exhibition at the J. Paul Getty Museum from the Collection of Jonathan Rosen (1983, Malibu: Getty). Publication: Waggoner-Rosen 548 in Nancy Waggoner, Early Greek Coins from the Jonathan P. Rosen Collection [ACNAC 5] (1983, NYC: ANS), p. 35 & pl. 20 (this coin illustrated); referenced in: Peter van Alfen & Jay M. Galst, Ophthalmologia Optica & Visio in Nummis (2018, NYC: ANS) p. 546 (this coin cited). Also raises the interesting question (and important transitional phase in numismatic history), when does it stop being an incuse punch? What about this archaic Hekte with a foursquare quadratum incusum (formerly Ionian, Erythrai, now reattributed to Bithynia, Herakleia) or the weird like Chicken Tetertera (and/or a Hemitetarteron) from Troas, Dardanos with the reverse punch in the form of a calf's head? When do we think of it as a reverse die rather than "just" a punch? NEXT: ARCHAIC FRACTION (any metal) Edited September 3, 2022 by Curtis JJ 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edessa Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 Try and try again... Lycaonia. Laranda, circa 324-323. AR Obol (10mm, 0.53g, 12h). Obv: Facing head of Herakles with club over shoulder, 'H' to left. Rev: Wolf forepart right, star above. Ref: Gokturk, “Small Coins from Cilicia and Surroundings,” in Mecanismes et innovations monetaires dans l'Anatolie achemenide" pg. 149, 68-69. Very Fine, nicely toned. Next: Another fraction of any kind. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 Taras, Calabria AR Triartemorion. Obv: Bridled horses head right. Rev: Bridled horses head right, bird before. 10mm., 0.43gm. 380-228 BC. Next: more fractions 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted September 3, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 3, 2022 Attica. Athens circa 454-404 BC. Hemiobol AR 6 mm., 0,27 g. Obv. Helmeted head of Athena right. Rev. AΘΕ ; Owl right head facing, wings folded, olive-leaf and berry behind, all within an incuse square. Sear SG 2531 Next - Athens 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 3, 2022 Next: shield 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted September 3, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Do I get double points for two shields? Next: Trophy and captives in silver. Edited September 3, 2022 by Phil Davis 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis JJ Posted September 3, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2022 51 minutes ago, Phil Davis said: Do I get double points for two shields? Next: Trophy and captives in silver. Not just double -- you get quadruple points squared and squared again for one of the coolest coins in the entire 400-year series of Roman captives" trophy tableau" coins, which started a few years earlier with Julius Caesar's (part of what makes the Brutus so cool is that is copied the JC original!) and continuing through the sons of Constantine! (You could say the Fundanius and Cloelius Quinarii were the first, but Julius Caesar and Brutus were the first to show the TWO captives which became iconic.) Julius Caesar AR Denarius, 46 BCE, military mint. Captured Gallic captives (Vercingetorix [?] and Gallia). NEXT: A LATER COIN IN THE "TROPHY CAPTIVES" TRADITION 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Phil Davis Posted September 3, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Curtis JJ said: Not just double -- you get quadruple points squared and squared again for one of the coolest coins in the entire 400-year series of Roman captives" trophy tableau" coins, which started a few years earlier with Julius Caesar's (part of what makes the Brutus so cool is that is copied the JC original!) and continuing through the sons of Constantine! One of the things that intrigues me about this obverse die of this Brutus type is that its engraver unmistakably also engraved the obverses of certain Lycian League hemidrachms. Edited September 3, 2022 by Phil Davis 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted September 4, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2022 Ar denarius of Vespasian with trophy reverse, Judea in mourning... next, Judean coin... 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtis JJ Posted September 4, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) That Judaea Capta Den. is wonderful! Really interesting style, both sides. 26 minutes ago, Octavius said: next, Judean coin... One of the first... Judaea under the Seleukids, Hasmonean Dynasty. John Hyrkanos I (Yehohanan) Æ Prutah (16mm, 3.11 g, 1h). Struck in the name of Seleukid King Antiochos VII Jerusalem mint, 132/1 BCE (Dated SE 181).Obverse: Lily on stem with two leaves; border of dots.Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EYEPΓETOY. Upright anchor; below: dated AΠP.Reference: Meshorer TJC pp. 30-31; Hendin GBC (5) 1131 & GBC (6) 6165a; SC 2123.2; HGC 9, 1103; DCA 209.Provenance: Jay Galst (1950-2020) Collection, CNG EA 510 (23 Feb 2022), Lot 261; acq. from Herb Kreindler, 1988. Notes: With Jay Galst's collection tag labeled “ANA 8” on reverse in green ink. Possibly from an ANA exhibit of Judaean coins? In 2002 he received an award for his ANA exhibit, "The Many Names of Jerusalem as Depicted on Ancient Coins." Could this coin have been part of it? Next: Judaean Coin struck AFTER 132/131 BCE... Edited September 4, 2022 by Curtis JJ 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted September 4, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted September 4, 2022 Next: something from the reign of Tiberius 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted September 4, 2022 · Patron Share Posted September 4, 2022 You didn't say WHICH Tiberius, @Ryro!! Tiberius II Constantine AD 574-582 and Anastasia. Byzantine Æ half-follis, 5.02 g, 20.4 mm, 7 h. Thessalonica, AD 579. Obv: dmTibCONS TANTPPAV, Nimbate Tiberius and Anastasia seated facing on double throne; he holds globus cruciger, she a scepter. Rev: Large K; above, cross; to left, A/N/N/O; to right, regnal indicator V (=5); beneath, TЄS. Refs: Berk 398; DOC 23; SB 439; MIBE 65. Next: Byzantine with a big K (half follis). 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuckHard Posted September 4, 2022 · Member Share Posted September 4, 2022 6 hours Palembang Sultanate of Sumatra1193AH (1778-1779 AD)Tin pitis | 0.67 grams | 15mm wideObv: Al-sultan fi bilad Palembang sanat 1193 in Jawi scriptRev: Blank (uniface)Ref: R#5Reported from the Musi River of Palembang Next: more tin/lead 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted September 4, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted September 4, 2022 (edited) Tin Beer token Ludwig Ganter Obv: BIERBRAUEREI Lud. Ganter IN FREIBURG (Brewery Lud. Ganter in Freiburg) Rev: Glass, GUT FÜR EINEN SCHOPPEN BIER, (Good for a Pint of Beer), star Year: 1865-1886 Tin, 20.5mm Next: Beer token EDIT: Now 3 hours. Forget the beer. Next now: token. Edited September 4, 2022 by shanxi 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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