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This is the last day of Black Music month, so I thought it was time for another one.  Again emphasizing the eclecticism, only more emphatically on a global scale.  ...This also happens to coincide with the last Aksumite I've gotten, as of today.

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Aksum /Axum.  Gersem, 522-38 (Hahn) / c. 600 (Edit: Munro-Hay --look, I've been sick); which was the last to issue coins is also disputed).  Billon unit. 

Obv. Gersem crowned, holding staff surmounted by a cross.

(In Ge'ez, having long since fully replaced Greek; unvowelled, typically of Afro-Semitic languages:) G'R [/] S'M. 

Rev. As above, but wearing headcloth.  N'G' [/] S.  (Negus;' King.)

Hahn Type147 (H 51); catalogue nos. 523-528.

Munro-Hay 147. 

Here's some Ethiopian Orthodox liturgical music for Easter, from Gondar.  The town wasn't founded until the 17th century, but it's within the borders of the original Aksumite kingdom.  No one's under any obligation to watch the whole thing, but I'm going to.  I have think the combination of influences, from various Middle Eastern 'High Church' traditions, to pretty emphatically African elements, is really cool. 

 

 

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And here's an old coin I've had in my collection for a while. 

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Claudius II Gothicus, 268-270 CE.
Roman billon antoninianus, 4.07 g, 22.4 mm, 5 h.
Antioch, officina 5, issue 1, 268-end 269 CE.
Obv: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust, right.
Rev: SALVS AVG, Isis standing left, holding sistrum and situla; Є in exergue.
Refs: RIC 217A; MER/RIC temp 1024; Cohen 256; RCV 11370; Huvelin 1990, 10; Normanby 1109.

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John, penny as Lord of Ireland; later (and commoner) issue, Dublin, 1207-1211.

Obv. John facing, with crown and sceptre; flower /quatrefoil to right.

IO[hA] / NNE[S] / REX X

Rev.  Crescent and sun; stars in three corners of triangle.  [+] ROBE / RD ON / [+] DIVE.  Spink, Scotland, Ireland (etc., 2015), 6228.

And of course, John did some signing of his own.

 

 

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Nessun dorma translates roughly to nobody sleeps.

 

Marcus Aurelius had this to say,

“At dawn, when you have trouble getting out of bed, tell yourself: “I have to go to work — as a human being. What do I have to complain of, if I’m going to do what I was born for — the things I was brought into the world to do? Or is this what I was created for? To huddle under the blankets and stay warm?”

So you were born to feel “nice”? Instead of doing things and experiencing them? Don’t you see the plants, the birds, the ants and spiders and bees going about their individual tasks, putting the world in order, as best they can? And you’re not willing to do your job as a human being? Why aren’t you running to do what your nature demands?

You don’t love yourself enough. Or you’d love your nature too, and what it demands of you.”

Here is the man himself

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Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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Here is a coin of Vespasian, the General. I have always wondered about the patina on this coin. Is the this natural patina of the coin, as when it comes from the ground and is perhaps enhanced by some careful cleaning. I have seen a fair number of other Vespasian coins with a similar look. Especially on the back of the coin, you can see corrosion, and the color of this is the same as the rest of the coin. I don't know exactly how the surface of this coin came to be, but it is appealing, at least to me.

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Here's some marching music for an army:

 

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The Great Intoxication... coins? Along with a few examples that intoxicate me.


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Pisidia; Selge; c. 250 - 190 BCE; AR Obol; 0.89 grams; Obv: Facing gorgeoneion; Rev: Helmented head of Athena right,
astragalos to left; SNG Ashmolean 1546 - 50, SNG BN 1948-54


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Marcus Aurelius. AR Denarius. Struck 161/2 AD. M ANTONINVS AVG, bare head right / CONCORD AVG TR P XVII, COS III in exergue, Concordia seated left, holding patera, resting left elbow on statuette of Spes set on base. 18mm 3.4gm

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Romanus I Lacapenus (920 - 944); Constantinople Æ Follis; Obv: +RwMAN bAS-ILEVS Rwm’ Facing bust of Romanus I, bearded, wearing crown and jeweled chlamys, and holding labarum and globus cruciger; Rev: +RwMA/N’ENΘEwbA/SILEVSRw/MAIwN; 27mm, 8.09g, 6h; R.1886-8, Sear 1760

 

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Viscounty of Chateaudun, anon. denier, c. 1200-1210 (Duplessy 488).  

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+CAStRI. DVnI:

I like how this includes the very first use of the Gothic /Lombardic 'N,' in an otherwise relentlessly (neo-/)Romanesque series.  Turn of the century indeed.

Posted this tune on the older forum, but sometimes I just need it.

 

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Hugh IV, Duke of Burgundy 1218-1272.  Denier of Dijon.

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Obv. (only; rats) +VGO BVRGVNDIE.  Anchor; DVX across.

From 1239, Hugh went on three crusades; surviving Louis IX's disastrous last one.

And Yes, I needed some more Al Green.  --From, Yowie, the vinyl!

 

 

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I have always loved "The Thrill is Gone." I love every version, from the 1951 original by Roy Hawkins to Aretha's 1970 version to a modern version by Christone "Kingfish" Ingram. But it is B.B. King's signature song, and rightfully so. Of all B.B. King recordings of the song -- and there are many -- my favorite is this duet with Tracy Chapman. 

 

Like most collectors of Roman Imperial coinage, I once had a one-of-each-emperor collection. But I have given up on that fool's errand, having been seduced by one subcollection after another over the years. The thrill is gone.

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So, I'm not actively looking for a Galba or Otho, et cetera. I'm trying to remember the last purchase I made for my one of each collection. This Maximus sestertius, I think.

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Maximus, Caesar AD 235/6-238.
Roman orichalcum sestertius, 21.54 g, 31.5 mm, 12 h.
Rome, 3rd emission, late AD 236-237.
Obv: MAXIMVS CAES GERM, bare-headed and draped bust, right.
Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS S C, Maximus standing left in military dress, holding baton in right hand and transverse spear in left hand; behind him, two standards.
Refs: RIC 13; BMCRE 213-17; Cohen 14; RCV 8411; MIR 37-5; Banti 6.

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What more could you ask to glorify a lifetime

Faustina I Denarius. Lifetime issue. 138-140 CE. FAVSTINA AVGVSTA, draped bust right / IVNONI REGINAE, Juno standing left, holding a patera and sceptre, peacock before. RIC 338, RSC 215. Sear 4669. 18mm, 3.15gr

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The Widow's Mite coin--a prutah--is mentioned in the Gospel and is well-know. It is a very small coin, perhaps it's worth todaywould be similar to a penny. Here is a well worn prutah, with stalks of wheat and the name Agrippa on the obverse. It's interesting that U.S. coinage has a wheat penny, with stalks of wheat on the reverse.

 

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Henryk Gorecki's Third Symphony touches on themes of separation and loss, which can be part of being a widow or widower.

 

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ANTONIUS FELIX AE Prutah. Roman Procurator of Judaea under Claudius. AD 54.
Obverse: Palm tree with dot and star and with L ΙΔ in field under branches either side of tree; BPIT above, K AI either side of tree across bottom.
Reverse: NЄP(Ѡ) KΛAY KAICAP. Two oblong shields crossed, two crossed spears behind.

Issue struck in the name of Nero Claudius Caesar and Britannicus.
 
RPC-4971, Sofaer 59-61. Jerusalem mint, RY 14 = 54 AD. 2,49 g - 17 mm
Volume: RPC I №: 4971
Reign: Claudius Persons: Britannicus (Caesar)
City: Jerusalem  Region: Judaea Province: Judaea
Denomination: Æ Average weight: 2.41 g. Issue: Year 14 (AD 54)
Obverse: ΒΡΙΤ ΚΑΙ, LΙΔ (in field); palm tree
Reverse: ΝƐΡW ΚΛΑΥ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ; two crossed spears and shields
Reference: Meshorer 29 Specimens: 12
Not too much known about Britannicus, son of Claudius. He was named after his Father´s exploits in Britain around 50 AD. The sudden death of Britannicus shortly before his fourteenth birthday is reported by all extant sources as being the result of poisoning on Nero's orders; as Claudius' biological son, he represented a threat to Nero's claim to the throne.

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Cales, Campania

265-240 BC
AE 22 (22mm, 6.32g)
O: Head of Athena left, wearing crested Corinthian helmet, all within dotted border.
R: Cock standing right, star behind; CALENΩ downward to right, all within dotted border.
Sambon 916; HN Italy 435; SNG ANS 188; SNG Cop 322; Sear 548
ex Forvm Ancient Coins

 

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Pisidia, Antioch. Men/Rooster. Æ14

Obv: ANTIOCHA / Draped bust of Mên to right, wearing Phrygian cap, with a crescent on his shoulders.
Rev: COL ANTIO-H / Rooster striding to right.
Reign: Antoninus Pius

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Well okay then...

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TROAS, Dardanos
c. 450-420 BCE
AR obol; 9 mm, 0.56 gm
Obv: cock standing left
Rev: cross-hatch pattern
Ref: Nomismata 3, 303; Demeester 98; SNG Ashmolean 1119 (all references unverified; I do not have copies of these reference books/catalogs)
 

 

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Here's a crown that arrived yesterday, a replacement for one that I sold many a moon ago.  It is a thaler of Maria Theresa, dated 1741, the first year of her coinage.  This coin links nicely with a portrait of her in the Hungarian coronation robe, with the Hungarian crown to the right.  

It should be noted that Maria Theresa ascended to the thrones in fraught circumstances, during the War of the Austrian Succession (1740 - 1748).  The core issue was her right to succeed her father, Charles VI to the Austrian, Hungarian and Bohemian thrones.

Here's a link for more information about that conflict:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Austrian_Succession

Hungary and Bohemia, Maria Theresa as queen, thaler, 1741 KB (Kremnica).

KM 328

28.81 grams

Obverse:
Young bust facing right with a corolla portrait with two curls hanging in the back

Lettering: MAR · THERESIA · D : G : REG : HUN : BO ·

Translation:
MARIA THERESIA DEI GRATIA REGINA HUNGARIAE BOHEMIAE
Maria Theresia by the grace of God Queen of Hungary and Bohemia

Reverse:
Standing radiant glorified and crowned Madonna with glorified child on left arm; orb in the left hand, scepter in the right; on a crescent. Twofold crowned Hungarian coat of arms below divides mintmark and lettering above

Lettering: S : MARIA MATER DEI PATRONA HUNG: 1742

Translation:
SANCTA MARIA MATER DEI PATRONA HUNGARIAE.
Saint Maria Mother of God, Protector of Hungary

Edge:
Lettering: IUSTITIA ET CLEMENTIA

Translation: With Justice and Mercy

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Daniel Schmidely - Maria Theresia im ungarischen Krönungskleid 1742

During her reign Joseph Haydn composed a symphony in her honor, the "Maria Theresia" symphony, number 48 in C major in 1769.

 

 

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