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[Romancollector]

On 5/31/2024 at 11:12 AM, El Cazador said:

@Romancollectorhow did you do overall? Positive or negative ROI?

I believe that I broke even. Overall, I don't think this auction was particularly strong. I did win a few pieces for far less than I believe they are worth. Some pieces did skyrocket, but there were definitely steals.

[El Cazador]

9 hours ago, Romancollector said:

I believe that I broke even. Overall, I don't think this auction was particularly strong. I did win a few pieces for far less than I believe they are worth. Some pieces did skyrocket, but there were definitely steals.

Hmm, this is really interesting, as i genuinely thought there were only a few coins priced at Market, the rest was ridiculously high

 

what coins you were able to win?

[Romancollector]

11 hours ago, El Cazador said:

Hmm, this is really interesting, as i genuinely thought there were only a few coins priced at Market, the rest was ridiculously high

 

what coins you were able to win?

5 Roman Imperials, all from the Wild Rose collection. Will post them elsewhere eventually.

[El Cazador]

20 minutes ago, Romancollector said:

5 Roman Imperials, all from the Wild Rose collection. Will post them elsewhere eventually.

Looking forward to seeing them, thank you!

[AlexandersNumismatics]

Hi all

 

Is the cabinet still down? Just tried listing a couple of Roman don't think they're showing. 

 

 

[Restitutor]

27 minutes ago, AlexandersNumismatics said:

Hi all

 

Is the cabinet still down? Just tried listing a couple of Roman don't think they're showing. 

 

 

It should be working - are you getting an error message? 

[AlexandersNumismatics]

Hi there,

    Can't see an error message there's a red triangle with an ! Next to the listing name and can't see it when looking at the category. 

Thank you :) 

[Restitutor]

I’ll investigate this today, the Cabinet should be back to normal after the down time a few months ago. 

[JAZ Numismatics]

JAZ NUMISMATICS SUMMER CLEARANCE SALE!

Hello friends, I'm cleaning out my inventory on Vcoins and I've discounted many items, some as low as half-price. Everyday this month, I'm going to keep listing new discounts until everything is sold, so check back often. My prices are already very reasonable, now they're a steal! Here are three links...

 

DISCOUNTED ANCIENT COINS

DISCOUNTED US COINS

DISCOUNTED WORLD COINS

[normantrader]

Hi,

Could you also make my “Un real - found in Panama” post visible? 
 

Thank You,

Edward

[Valentinian]

I added some coins to my page:

http://augustuscoins.com/index.html

Four Constantinian on the Constantinian page. Carus, Valerian, Constantius, Licinius, and Maximinus II on that page near the top. Two Theodosius, an Arcadius, and an Honorius and two other coins moved to the Valentinian and later page. Justinian, Sear 230 from Antioch on the Byzantine page. A full-sized ancient imitation of Constantius II, FEL TEMP REPARATIO, near the top of the main page.

A Philip I with a superb portrait:

is on the main page: http://augustuscoins.com/index.html
which also has a lovely slabbed Sabina with an anepigraphic reverse.

An excellent Herennia Etruscilla


(Her portrait is rarely attractive.)
There is also a page of Greek coins and one with ancient-coin literature.

Please take a look. Maybe bookmark my site. I add coins frequently but I don't often post here that I have done so.

[Romancollector]

Hi Everyone, 

I have a few coins being auctioned via Heritage over the next few months:

The first two are excellent late Roman silver coins in Heritage's Wednesday & Thursday World & Ancient Coins Select Auction #232437 on Wednesday, September 11 at 7:00 pm CT (8:00 pm EST).

1. Diocletian AR Argenteus (Nicomedia) NGC AU

https://coins.ha.com/itm/ancients/roman-imperial/ancients-diocletian-ad-284-305-ar-argenteus-17mm-333-gm-6h-ngc-au-5-5-4-5/a/232437-62108.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

2. Constans AR Heavy Siliqua (Trier) NGC MS

https://coins.ha.com/itm/ancients/roman-imperial/ancients-constans-ad-337-350-ar-heavy-siliqua-20mm-350-gm-5h-ngc-ms-4-5-4-5/a/232437-62121.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

Happy Bidding! 

[DonnaML]

This is a relatively inexpensive example (as Antonine aurei go these days!) of a scarce type of Antoninus Pius aureus, with an interesting and unusual mythological reverse depicting a scene of joy (LAETITIA) from the myth of Ceres and Proserpina -- believed to represent Faustina II with one of her daughters, celebrating the latter's birth in or about AD 151.

 

Buy It Now price $4,000.00 (including Priority Mail flat rate postage, tracked and insured). USA only, at least for now: I don't want to have to deal with figuring out how to avoid any possible issues with international shipping or problems with Customs. (Although if nobody here in the USA wants the coin, and any interested purchaser living abroad is willing to do all that figuring out for me and calculate the appropriate shipping costs including insurance, please let me know!)

 

Payment by Paypal (friends & family) or Zelle. Here's my write-up, with footnotes. Photos below, together with examples of recent prices for other specimens of the type.

 

Antoninus Pius AV aureus, ca. AD 151, Rome Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, ANTONINVS AVG – PIUS P P TR P XIIII / Rev. On left, Ceres (believed to represent Faustina II) standing three-quarters facing, head right, holding two grain ears in right hand; on right, Proserpina (believed to represent one of her daughters, namely Faustina III or Lucilla) standing facing, head left, next to her mother, holding pomegranate in extended left hand, the two gazing at and embracing each other as Ceres welcomes Proserpina back from the underworld – a scene that may celebrate the birth of the Emperor’s granddaughter Faustina III (or Lucilla) in AD 151; hence the reverse inscription naming Laetitia, the personification of joy; LAETITIA – COS IIII.* 19 mm., 6.89 g., 6 h. (Edge mark visible on reverse at 5 o’clock; less noticeable at 2 o’clock on obverse.) RIC III Antoninus Pius 199c (p. 50) [“Scarce”] [12 examples with all obverse variations sold at auction in last 8 years according to acsearch, including 6 with this reverse legend placement and 6 with “COS IIII” in reverse exergue]; Cohen 476; Sear RCV II Antoninus Pius 4008 (p. 205); BMCRE IV Antoninus Pius 725 (ill. Pl. 15 No. 14; Strack 224 [Strack, Paul L., Untersuchungen zur römischen Reichsprägung des zweiten Jahrhunderts, Teil III: Die Reichsprägung zur Zeit Antoninus Pius (Stuttgart, 1937)]; Calicó 1556 [Calicó, E. Xavier, The Roman Avrei, Vol. I: From the Republic to Pertinax, 196 BC - 193 AD (Barcelona, 2003)]; Dinsdale 037180 [Dinsdale, Paul H, Antoninus Pius and Marcus Aurelius Caesar AD 138-161: Antonine Coinage (2nd Rev. ed., Leeds 2021) Ch. 18 at p. 421; photo at same page, indicating a probable obverse die match to my specimen] [see http://romanpaulus.x10host.com/Antoninus/old/18 - Antoninus Pius - TR POT XIIII Period - 150-151 (med_res).pdf .]** Purchased from Arete Coins [George Matev], Seattle, WA, Feb. 2022 (described as “VF, toned, one minor edge mark”; ex Classical Numismatic Group [CNG] E-Auction 360, Sep. 30, 2015, Lot 458 (from “Group SGF” Collection) (same description); ex Jesús Vico, S.A., Auction 141, Mar. 5, 2015, Lot 121.

 

The 2015 CNG photo of my aureus:

 

 

My own photos of the obverse and reverse, taken earlier this week:

 

 

Since I don't have the manual dexterity to take a video turning the coin with one hand, or a way of holding my phone in place while turning the coin with two hands, here are three "stationary videos" showing the obverse, the reverse, and the place on the reverse with the visible edge mark. (The edge is otherwise unblemished.) Please make sure to turn off the sound before playing, to avoid the loud background noise! Also: I didn't properly center the video of the obverse, so it may be necessary to play it in full screen mode to prevent the coin's top edge from appearing to be cut off.

 

   

Footnote:

*Unusual portrayal of Proserpina This type (with its minor variations in the obverse portrait [see RIC 199a-b, Dinsdale 037150, 037160, 037170] as well as in the placement of “COS IIII” in the reverse exergue in some dies [see Dinsdale 037200]), is one of only two representations of Proserpina, with or without her mother Ceres, on Roman Imperial coinage. (The only other such representation is on the reverse of an antoninianus of Claudius II Gothicus, depicting the pair facing each other, each holding a long-handled torch; see MER-RIC V.1 No. 1072 [temp.], at https://ric.mom.fr/en/coin/1072?from=map&Mint=Antioch&mod=result&page=7&hpp=10.). For anyone not familiar with either the Greek or the Roman version of the myth, see https://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HaidesPersephone2.html.

 

Date of Issue All attempts to date this issue have necessarily been based on the TR P XIIII in the obverse inscription, signifying the 14th annual renewal of Antoninus Pius’s tribunician power [“Tribunicia Potestas”]. (The “COS IIII” on the reverse is of no assistance, since Antoninus held the consulship for the fourth time in AD 145, and never held a fifth.) See the explanation at Sear RCV II p. 72 of the significance of renewals of tribunician power in dating Roman Imperial coins:

 

“As the emperor [Augustus] wished the tribunician power to be regarded as the basis for his authority it was natural that he should introduce the custom of reckoning the years of his reign by the date of its symbolic annual renewal. The precedent having thus been instituted, this became the normal practice of Augustus’ successors and the number of annual renewals of the tribunican power, appearing regularly in the inscriptions on the coinage, provide valuable evidence in establishing the numismatic chronology of each reign.”

 

In a post on Forvm Ancient Coins dated Aug. 22, 2014 (see https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=97313.msg601994#msg601994), as well as in a more recent post at Coin Talk on Nov. 22, 2020 (see https://www.cointalk.com/threads/questions-about-new-faustina-ii-denarius.370212/page-2#post-5143304), Curtis L. Clay has proposed that at the time of Antoninus Pius’s 13th through 15th tribunician years, his tribunician day was the anniversary of Hadrian’s original conferral of tribunician power on Antoninus Pius when he adopted him and the Senate proclaimed him Caesar in AD 138, namely 25 Feb., rather than the more traditional 10 Dec. tribunician day (the Republican date for the annual appointment of the tribune) known to have been used at the end of his reign in AD 161. See Aug. 22, 2014 post, supra (Antoninus’s tribunician day during this period was not 10 Dec. but “25 February, when Hadrian had adopted Antoninus”); Nov. 22, 2020 post, supra (“Perhaps Antoninus' tribunician day was . . . when his tribunician assembly met, 25 Feb. having been the day when Hadrian adopted him and the Senate proclaimed him Caesar”). Thus, Antoninus Pius’s 14th tribunician year would have run not from 10 Dec. 150 to 10 Dec. 151, but began and ended a few months later, running from 25 Feb. 151 to 25 Feb. 152, meaning that this coin was minted during that period.

 

Identity of granddaughter of Antoninus Pius represented by Proserpina In both comments, Curtis L. Clay used this chronological discussion (and a parallel discussion of the dates of Marcus Aurelius’s tribunician years as Caesar, omitted here) to propose that the reverse of this aureus, depicting Ceres and Proserpina together with the legend LAETITIA (Joy), actually celebrates the birth to Faustina II of Annia Aurelia Galeria Lucilla, known as Lucilla. For the reasons stated in his Aug. 22, 2014 Forvm post, he posits Lucilla’s birth to have taken place on 7 March, 151. See also Curtis Clay’s discussion in his 2020 Coin Talk post, at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/questions-about-new-faustina-ii-denarius.370212/page-2#post-5143304.

 

However, based on a detailed analysis of the relevant authorities (including the recent die studies of Martin Beckmann), @Roman Collector has advanced the view that Lucilla was actually the second child of Marcus Aurelius and Faustina II, born two years earlier on 7 March 149, rejecting the view that their first two children were boys. Therefore, he concludes that if this aureus – whether issued between Dec. 150 and Dec. 151 or between Feb. 151 and Feb. 152 -- does celebrate the birth of a daughter (rather than simply representing Ceres and Proserpina), that daughter could only have been Annia Galeria Aurelia Faustina, known as Faustina III (b. 151, d. ca. 180/81 after the beginning of the reign of Commodus). See https://www.cointalk.com/threads/faustina-friday-–-concordia-and-the-birth-of-lucilla.385764/; https://www.numisforums.com/topic/5294-faustina-friday-–-the-children-of-faustina-the-younger-part-i/#comment-68222; https://www.numisforums.com/topic/5342-faustina-friday-–-the-children-of-faustina-the-younger-part-ii/#comment-68929(specifically discussing this type). See also my questions to @Roman Collector at https://www.numisforums.com/topic/5294-faustina-friday-–-the-children-of-faustina-the-younger-part-i/#comment-68430, based on the Curtis Clay analysis, and @Roman Collector's responses immediately following.

 

Regarding the significance to these issues (if any) of the existence of one obverse die of this type bearing the tribunician year TR P XIII rather than XIIII, see the posts cited above. Only two specimens bearing the XIII date are known (both from the same die), one held by the British Museum since 1864, and another I found that was sold at auction in 2005. Curtis Clay has argued that the single “XIII” die must simply have been an error (something necessary for the rest of his conclusions to be correct), while Roman Collector takes the position that whether the die was erroneous or intentional, the reverse figure of Proserpina can only have represented the birth of Faustina III (not Lucilla) if it represented any royal granddaughter’s birth at all.

 

I hold no independent view on any of these issues, and simply present the alternative theories in case they are of any interest to readers, including potential purchasers of this aureus.

 

**My example also appears to be an obverse die match to the specimen at the Münzkabinett Berlin; see http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.3.ant.199Cand photo of obverse at https://ikmk.smb.museum/image/18273198/vs_exp.jpg.

 

Finally, here are some other prices for examples of this type.

 

First, The description and photo of the only example of this type currently offered at VCoins or MA-Shops, by Münzhandlung Ritter GmbH in Düsseldorf, for the sum of 5,000 Euros, or $5,524.22 at current exchange rates. Personally, I happen to think mine is quite a bit nicer (even apart from the CNG pedigree), although of course you can form your own opinion.

 

 

 

Next, the 12 specimens of this type that have been sold at auction in the last 8 years since the beginning of 2017, as listed on acsearch (plus one specimen that went unsold), with the hammer prices. (I believe that the buyer's premium is not included in those prices, never mind the costs of shipping and insurance, so the actual total amounts paid by the buyers were higher.)

 

 

Hence, my characterization of my price as "relatively inexpensive." What's more, my price represents a discount of approximately 10% from what I paid nearly three years ago, when prices for Roman gold were lower in general than they are now. Thanks for reading.

 

PS: To pre-empt any possible negative comments, yes, I'm aware that the coin would be worth more without the edge mark on the reverse. That's one of the reasons why it's relatively inexpensive!

Edited October 3 by DonnaML

[ben]

"Hey everyone! I just discovered The Cabinet, and I’m really excited about the Ancient & World Coin Marketplace. It’s fascinating to see such a variety of coins from different eras and cultures. Has anyone made any purchases or have tips for collectors? I’d love to hear your experiences!"

4o mini

[Mucius Scaevola]

Hello everyone,

 

Does someone have a quinarius to sell? Imperial (Galba, Vespasian, Domitian, Trajan, Hadrian - whatever) in a quite good shape?

 

Thank you for reading!

[sand]

On 10/4/2024 at 4:46 AM, ben said:

"Hey everyone! I just discovered The Cabinet, and I’m really excited about the Ancient & World Coin Marketplace. It’s fascinating to see such a variety of coins from different eras and cultures. Has anyone made any purchases or have tips for collectors? I’d love to hear your experiences!"

4o mini

Hello @ben. Welcome to Nvmis Forvms.

There are many places, where you can buy ancient, medieval, and world coins. Are you asking, where you can buy ancient, medieval, and world coins? Or, are you asking specifically about The Cabinet?

Edited October 7 by sand

[fazallangov]

hi

i am looking to sell my netherland ducat coins. any expert guide