Tejas Posted November 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) I found this coin below on Ebay. The coin has a Magnetius avers and a Diocletianus avers. Measurements: 23mm, 8.64 gr. Has anybody seen such a hybrid before? The weight is very high, unless it is a double maiorina. Could this be two coins struck together? Or have they really used a 50 year old avers die to strike a coin for Magnentius? Edited November 24, 2023 by Tejas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Victor_Clark Posted November 24, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 24, 2023 It's a modern fake. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted November 24, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Damn ... have you seen such a fake before? The Magnentius looks entirely legitimate to me. If it had a regular reverse, I would not have thought twice about the antiquity of the coin. Edited November 24, 2023 by Tejas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Victor_Clark Posted November 24, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 24, 2023 I have not seen this particular pairing before. The Diocletian looks like the same die as this example from FAC's fake gallery. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted November 25, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 Yes, this could well be the Diocletian. I have cancelled the purchase. Thanks for your quick response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted November 25, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 25, 2023 The FAC fakes gallery one that Victor posted has a comment attached that the other side was Gordon III in that case. Here's another that was posted on CoinTalk with a FIDES MILITVM reverse. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted November 25, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 25, 2023 These fakes are really curious and kind of innovative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted November 26, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) I think these are fakes. I was intrigued by the apparent hybrid and bought it for 30 euros. I have since canceled the deal, before it was sent out to me and I never paid anything. So no harm done. What I find concerning is the Magnentius, which looks very convincing and the fake would be hard to spot if it had the regular reverse. Edited November 26, 2023 by Tejas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 26, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 26, 2023 I think I've seen something similar once (can't remember where though), and by the time it had been determined as fake as well. Such an "hybrid" (I mean a genuine one) would be a great surprise. Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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