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Thank you Donna. Since I got this coin/ prices have gone up/ way up. This makes no sense/ since its not rare (170 were struck) but probably most were put away/ and are now in collections. One of my lawn clients (moved from Croatia) in 2018 said/ there these sell for 8 k -10 KUS.

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3 minutes ago, panzerman said:

Thank you Donna. Since I got this coin/ prices have gone up/ way up. This makes no sense/ since its not rare (170 were struck) but probably most were put away/ and are now in collections. One of my lawn clients (moved from Croatia) in 2018 said/ there these sell for 8 k -10 KUS.

John

He was really not a good guy, but I guess he's still popular in Croatia.

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I have 5 Croatian clients/ most born after 1980. There is an intense hatred towards the Serbs/ I guess the war crimes commited in 1990s by Serbian militias brought this on. I also had a client/  Serbian gentlemen (he worked as a scientist for NASA)  fought for Tito's partisans in 1944-45. You could not meet a nicer guy, he told me that he never wanted to hurt any opposing soldiers, just hope the war would end soon. And he did work with rocket specialists from Peenemünde in 50s/ 60s 70s for American space program headed by Wernher von Braun.

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Croatia may well be my favorite country in the world. It has wonderfully rich ancient and medieval history and sooo many under-visited cultural sites. When I traveled there a few years ago I was amazed at how universally friendly every single Croatian I met was. I hope I get a chance to visit again someday.

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16 hours ago, DonnaML said:

Nice coin, but not someone whose image I'd want anywhere in my home. 

I fully agree. And I certainly cannot give the ‚heart eyes emoji’ to this coin. But especially these parts of history have to be remembered…

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I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I recently went to Croatia. It's a beautiful country. Specifically, I went to Dubrovnik - a former prosperous trading hub.

Inspired by other users of this Forum, I decided to take a few photos, which I planned to use in a thread about the city (but I never got round to creating the post).

Here they are:

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I also managed to get a quick pic of this little guy! 

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While I was there, it just happened to be Croatian Statehood Day (May 30th); this is a national holiday in Croatia, where the country celebrates it's 1991 declaration of independence from Yugoslavia.

On that day, we visited the Island of Lokrum, which is the big island just beyond the Old Town as seen in the last photo. We walked around the whole island before visiting the beach, where we stayed for about 30 minutes. As we were leaving, I saw something in the water, which had been washed up. It turned out to be a coin:

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The coin is not in great condition but is still quite interesting!

 

Overall, my trip to Dubrovnik was phenomenal. Thank you for reading! 😄

 

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On 2/3/2024 at 12:28 AM, DonnaML said:

He was really not a good guy, but I guess he's still popular in Croatia.

You guess wrong, he was never popular in Croatia, before the German and Italian occupiers installed him as their puppet after they occupied Croatia in 1941, he hardly had any followers here, and today he is despised by actual Croatian people for giving away our territory to the Italians (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaties_of_Rome_(1941)) and for various other reasons, his "fans" here are almost exclusively Catholics from Bosnia and Herzegovina (he was from Bosnia and Herzegovina himself), and I am guessing they are the ones who buy his coins.

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This is a very interesting article: https://web.archive.org/web/20200223074550/http://old.hnb.hr/novcan/povijest/e-nastavak-3.htm

"The peoples that had passed through or lived on the territories of today's Republic of Croatia left their imprint on many segments of life, including coin minting. According to available sources, the Croats living on the territory of today's Croatia started to mint their own coins in the late 12th century. Before that time, they had minted replicas of Byzantine coins."

If any of those replicas are available for auction or direct sale, I would love to buy one.

 

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Today I bought this Kingdom of Hungary Silver Denar of Nikola III Zrinski (father of the Croatian national hero Nikola IV Zrinski (more commonly known as Nikola Šubić Zrinski)), minted in Kostajnica, Croatia in 1531:

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_III_Zrinski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_IV_Zrinski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrvatska_Kostajnica

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I have no specifically Croatian coins, but this one's close:

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This little coin (AR denar, 11mm, 0.40g) was attributed to Bela V. I can't find him at all, I expect they meant Bela IV. But I think it's...

Bela II aka Bela the Blind (c. 1109 – 13 February 1141) was King of Hungary and Croatia from 1131 to 1141. He appears to have annoyed his uncle, who had him monked and blinded in childhood, a custom not restricted to Byzantion it would seem. 
Bela was reportedly lucky to avoid castration, to boot, but nevertheless after his uncle died found himself back in favour, and eventually became King in his early twenties. 
Right.... Party time...
"After King Bela had been established in his rule of the kingdom, he indulged himself much with wine. His courtiers found that whatever they asked of the King in his drunkenness he would grant, and after his drunkenness he could not take it back."
The Hungarian Illuminated Chronicle.

I guess some of you know the feeling, I know I do!
 

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