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a Tiberius III follis, Heraclius from Isaura and an interesting Nemean Antoninianus


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This was the second part of the Leontius purchase.  I was lacking a decent Apsimar follis so when this showed up at a relative bargain price, I jumped on it.

 

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Tiberius III (Apsimar). 698-705 AD. AE Follis (4.75g, 22.5mm). Constantinople mint. Dated year 1 (698/9). Obv.: facing bust with short beard, wearing crown and cuirass, holding transverse spear and shield. Rev.: large M; cross above, year I; B below; CON in exergue. DOC II 19b; MIB III 73; SB 1366.

 

This is my second Isauran example, an opportunistic buy.  It actually was more expensive than the Tiberius.  My other one has more details but is stripped.

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Heraclius, with Heraclius Constantine. 610-641 AD. AE Follis (11.70g, 32mm). Isaura mint. Dated RY 7 (616/7 AD). Obv.: Facing busts of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine, both wearing crown and chlamys; cross between, blundered legend. Rev.: Large M; cross above, ANNO GI across field; A/ISAYR. SB 848.

The final one was chosen for the interesting reverse, which unfortunately is pretty much obliterated due to a worn die. It's not often that I go for silvered Ant's.  I keep intending to get a Probus, but I've been ending up with Maximians.

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Maximianus Herculius, first reign. 286-306 AD. AE Silvered Antoninianus (3.59g, 21mm). Lugdunum mint. Struck 287-9 AD. Obv.: IMP C MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right. Rev.: VIRTVTI AVGG, Hercules standing right, strangling the Nemean lion; at his feet to left, club. RIC 454; Cohen 650; Lyon 214. Reverse struck from a worn die

It must take a talented cleaner to preserve silvering. 

Feel free to post any related coins you might have.

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I remember seeing that Tiberius III for sale out there. The price was good. Had I not already had one from that emperor, I may have considered buying it myself. But, given that and given that I was tied up in my Justinian II obsession, I decided it would make a better addition to someone else's collection. I'm glad you landed it!

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Sear values 848 at almost twice the equivalent from Seleucia.  Is it really that much scarcer? Of the two mints, I prefer Seleucia and I notice more Isaurans for sale than that of the two bust Seleucia type. The Seleucia imitating S805 seems to come up more frequently.

I opened the coins today.  The Heraclius is probably the more attractive in-hand of the two.  The Apsimar is a dull black and does not show off very well, which is probably why it was so cheap.   I had wanted a follis, and it isn't bad, for the price.  A halfway decent one can easily be $300-400.

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I just noticed something.  Per the regnal year, there seems to be no I to the right of the G.  Do you think this is a result of the overstriking?  I thought the border was beading at first, but now appears to be part of an undertype legend.

For those who are unfamiliar with Byzantine types, Isaura was a relatively scarce military mint, used as staging before Heraclius' counterattack.

 

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My other example is stripped but has unusually bold legends.  Is the dealer reading correct, especially around 11 to 12 o'clock obverse?  I.e. the funny looking C's between ERA..EhR?

I suppose my patinated example could also be year 8.  It's cut off due to the overstrike.

 

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Heraclius, with Heraclius Constantine. 610-641. AE Follis/ 40 Nummi (11.83 gm, 31mm). Seleucia Isauriae mint. Dated RY 8 (617/8). Obv.: LON hЄRACLЄRA, crowned busts of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine facing; cross above. Rev.: large M; cross above, date across field; A//ISAYR. DOC 183; MIB 196; SB 848

 

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