Robi Posted August 6 · Member Share Posted August 6 Hello! Today I would like to present my modest collection of coins (rather bronze with two exceptions) of the Seleucid dynasty. I collect Seleucid coins only occasionally - anything that catches my eye, but I have accumulated quite a bit, so I decided to organize the coins a bit. Share your rare and interesting Seleucid bronzes (I think that bronze coins of this dynasty are still little appreciated) Greetings, Robert Kh. 24 1 2 1 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted August 6 · Member Share Posted August 6 36 minutes ago, Robi said: Hello! Today I would like to present my modest collection of coins (rather bronze with two exceptions) of the Seleucid dynasty. I collect Seleucid coins only occasionally - anything that catches my eye, but I have accumulated quite a bit, so I decided to organize the coins a bit. Share your rare and interesting Seleucid bronzes (I think that bronze coins of this dynasty are still little appreciated) Greetings, Robert Kh. Robi, That's an impressive group of coins 🤩. I especially like the "bottle cap" coins 😂. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted August 6 · Supporter Share Posted August 6 (edited) Excellent representation of Seleukid bronzes! Though, one coin type seems to be missing... They also have a wonderful mix of Macedonian shield featuring anchors, elephants and Gorgons oh my! And a cool Tryphon for the rad helmet for fun! Edited August 6 by Ryro 18 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted August 6 · Member Share Posted August 6 All Hail @Robi Monothalmos! His collection of 50+ AE Seleukid coins happened to catch his eye. I focus on silver coinage, so I've only managed to collect a handful of bronze coins, sometimes simply because no silver examples are available, as with Molon, Achaeos, and Timarchos. Tryphon is often quite affordable in bronze, though condition is oftentimes disappointing. 16 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Snible Posted August 7 · Member Share Posted August 7 Here's a real big one. It may be the biggest Seleukid coin. Antiochos IV Epiphanes. Struck 169-168 BC. Æ (43mm, 71.83 g, 1h). “Egyptianizing” series. Antioch on the Orontes mint. Rev: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY ΘEOY EΠIΦANOYΣ (King Antiochos God Manifest); Eagle standing right on thunderbolt. ex-Classical Numismatic Group, e-Auction 426, August 2018, lot 221. SC 1412. This was described in the CNG catalog as having a ”flan flaw“. The flaw looks like post-mint damage: a hole. 18 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 8 · Member Author Share Posted August 8 On 8/6/2024 at 3:33 PM, Al Kowsky said: Robi, That's an impressive group of coins 🤩. I especially like the "bottle cap" coins 😂. Thank You @Al Kowsky, I like "bottle" coins too 😍, especially the big one. My new seleucid serratus have arrived today: Alexander Balas, some scarce. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted August 8 · Supporter Share Posted August 8 Great selection of coins shown. Here is one of mine SELEUCID KINGS of SYRIA. Alexander I Balas.(152-145 BC).Antioch.Ae. Obv : Head of Alexander I to right, wearing lion skin headdress. Rev : ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟY. Apollo standing facing, head to left, holding arrow and grounded bow; trident to outer left, monogram in exergue. SC 1795.3.Weight : 6.12 gr Diameter : 17 mm 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 8 · Member Author Share Posted August 8 Thank You @Ryro. You have a grate coins with a shield and elephant. I have one of Antiochos I Soter (a small one 😉 ) The fifth coin from the top seems to be rare - I don't think I've seen it at auctions. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted August 8 · Member Share Posted August 8 (edited) Here's a couple... Seleukid Kingdom, Reign of Antiochos IV (Epiphanes) 175-173/2 BC AE16 (16mm, 3.55g) O: Veiled bust of Laodike IV, within dotted border. R: Elephant's head left, tripod behind; BAΣIΛEΩΣ - ANTIOXOY above and below, [ΘE]K ex. Antioch mint Sear 1691v ex Marc Breitsprecher Numismatics Seleukid Kingdom, Reign of Antiochos VI (Dionysus) 145-142 BC AE17 Serrate (17.5mm, 4.29g) O: Diademed and radiate head right. R: Panther advancing left with paw raised, holding palm branch in mouth; BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY and ΣTA above, star behind, EΠIΦANOYΣ ∆IONYΣOY in exergue. SNG Spaer 1784; Houghton 241v (cornucopiae); Sear 7083 ex Forvm Auctions (FortunA) Edited August 8 by Phil Anthos 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 8 · Member Author Share Posted August 8 @Anaximander I'm afraid that sometimes one eye is not enough. Some of your coins presented here are rare and very rare. Wow, Molon!!! I don't really hope to add Molon to my collection (from what I've seen, the prices are crazy - several thousand euros. Robert Kh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted August 8 · Supporter Share Posted August 8 ..hi Robie and welcome...that's a nice (and fairly large) collection of Sels..i started on a group a while back but hence haven't collected anymore to date...(all my choices make me change my mind :P) 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaximander Posted August 8 · Member Share Posted August 8 Kudos to @Ed Snible for his monster-sized "Denomination AAA" (per HGC). My Timarchos weighs in at 35 gm and spans 35mm, but seems puny compared to his, which is TWICE as heavy! 😲 I'll confess that my bronze coins of Molon & Achaios were bought together, at bargain prices, over 20 years ago (before internet bidding) from my Miami dealer 🤐. Glad I purchased Molon then, as I'd not pay the butcher's bill today... 13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 9 · Member Author Share Posted August 9 @Ed Snible Yes, this is the largest Seleucid bronze - modeled on Egyptian coinage (on the drachma or octobole? - the weight of this AAA bronze (70-80 g) is between). Conratulation! I wontbthis one🙂. I recently bought a lighter version (approx. 35 g, but it hasn't arrived yet) Robert 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor LONGINUS Posted August 11 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted August 11 (edited) Greetings Robi, It’s wonderful to meet a fellow occasional Seleukid bronze coin collector! You have an outstanding collection! I’ve always found Seleukid bronzes to be particularly beautiful, especially the portraits. I’ve enjoyed adding a few to my collection each year for several years now. DR is my other alias — ⛪ Edited August 11 by LONGINUS 11 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celator Posted August 11 · Member Share Posted August 11 Congrats of the variety of kings Robi. Seleucus I Nicator Possibly Antioch on the Orontes 300 to 281 BC Obvs:Turbaned bearded Dionysus seated left on rock holding ancus (elephant goad) in hand. Dotted border. Revs: BAΣIΛIEΩΣ above ΣEΛEYKOY below, horned elephant head right. Ξ in exergue, dotted border. AE 17x18mm, 6.21g SC C25; HGC 9, 78(R2) Alexander II Mint: Uncertain mint 114 in southern Coele Syria 128/127 to 124/3 BC Obvs: Head of horse right, dotted border. Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ AΛEΞANΔPOY, Ship’s ram left. AE 11x12mm, 1.44g Ref: SC 2257; HGC 9, 1154(R2-R3) Antiochus IV Epiphanes Mint: Ecbatana Denomination B 175 to 164 BC Obvs: Elephant right with mahout, dotted border. Control on right. Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ on right ANTIOXOY on left, Nike advancing right holding fileted wreath. Control inner right and Π in exergue. AE 23mm, 8.21g Ref: SC 1554.2a; HGC 9, 677(R2) Antiochus XI Epiphanes Philadelphus Antioch on the Orontes 94/93 BC Obvs: Diademed head of Antiochus right clean shaven, dotted border. Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOV on right, EΠIΦANOVΣ ΦIΛAΔEΛΦOV on left. Athena standing left holding Nike outside inscription and resting hand on grounded shield, spear propped in crook of elbow. Monogram outer left above unknown symbol. 19x20mm, 8.27g Ref: cf. SC 2443; cf. HGC 9, 1301(R2) Note: Unpublished with a symbol that is not bunch of grapes below monogram. Unknown Mint associated with Antioch 246 to 244 BC Obvs: Diademed head of Antiochos I right. Revs: ΣΩTHPOΣ ANTIOXOY, anchor between caps of the Dioskouroi; ΔEΛ monogram to right. AE 15x17mm, 3.75g Ref: SC 642; HGC 9, 296(R3) 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 14 · Member Author Share Posted August 14 @expat Interesting coin - I haven't seen this type often. Thank You for sharing. Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 14 · Member Author Share Posted August 14 @LONGINUS thank You for your kind words. It's wonderful to meet You too! I am intrigued by bronze coins - as carriers of the life stories of ordinary, simple people. Beautiful presentation of your collection! Congratulations on graphic skills! Regards! Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted August 15 · Supporter Share Posted August 15 Nice collection @Robi and nice presentation of them. Seleucid bronzes are fun! Here are a few of mine, both from the @Ryrocollection! 🙂 Seleukid Empire Diodotos Tryphon AE17, Antioch mint, struck ca. 142-139 BC Dia.: 17 mm Wt.: 4.8 g Obv.: Diademed head of Tryphon right Rev.: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ TPYФΩNOΣ AYTOKPATOPOΣ to right and left of a Macedonian helmet left, adorned with ibex horn. Star in lower left field Ref.: BMC Vol. IV 11-12; Babelon 1052; Hoover HGC 1061; Houghton SC 2034.2e Ex Ryro Collection, Ex David@PCC, Ex Bassem Daou Seleukid Empire Antiochos II AE 18, Tralles mint, struck ca. 261-246 BC (18mm, 3.9g, 12h) Obv.: Laureate head of Apollo r. Rev.: Tripod; monogram to outer l., ? to r., anchor in exergue. Ref.: SC 599; HGC 9, 253b Ex Ryro Collection 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 16 · Member Author Share Posted August 16 @Celator You have a great and very rare coins! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 16 · Member Author Share Posted August 16 Thank You @Curtisimo - and You have two decent bronze Seleucid representatives. After the weekend, I will receive some interesting Seleucid coins - I will publish the photos Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-monolith- Posted August 17 · Member Share Posted August 17 (edited) I'm not an avid collector of Seleucid coins but here are a few that have slipped into my collection: Edited August 17 by -monolith- attachments 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 19 · Member Author Share Posted August 19 Thank You @-monolith- for sharing. I think the last one is scarce: Antiochos IV Epiphanes (175-164 BC). quasi-municipal issue. Hierapolis on the Pyramos (Kastabala). SC 1391 unit (denomination C) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robi Posted August 19 · Member Author Share Posted August 19 I have a some new coins 🙂. But first I will publish one - it seems to be very rare - I have not found any auction with one. What do you think - what rarity level could be given? Antiochos VII and Kleopatra Thea, SC 2266. Rarity scale of Seleucid bronze coins according to David Hendin: S Scarce. Within a bracket of approximately 30-100. Many are in collections. These appear in many collections and catalogs but are not common in the trade. A specific S is likely to appear on the market once every few months. R1 Rare. Within a range of 10-30 examples R1 coins appear in a smaller number of collections and catalogs. R1 coins will be available on the market infrequently, perhaps several times a year. R2 Very Rare. Within a range of more than 2, generally less than 10 extant examples R2 coins are very limited in number, and are generally not available on the market. One or more may appear over the course of several years. R3 Extremely rare. One or two examples only are believed to be extant. R3 coins are generally found in isolated examples in collections and excavations. A specific R3 is not likely to appear on the market for many years, if at all. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celator Posted August 19 · Member Share Posted August 19 I don't recall seeing one. Houghton has the same scale. I have the more common one. Antiochos VIII Mint: Antioch 97 BC Obvs: Head of Antiochos right radiate within dotted border. Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EΠIΦANOYΣ, filleted double cornucopiae. PE monogram outer left, grain ear inner left. AE 20mm, 8.8g Ref: SNG Isr 2560; SC 2313.1b; HGC 9, 1213(S) 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted August 20 · Supporter Share Posted August 20 Athena with an ELEPHANT... Seleukos I AE Seleucid Seleukos I 312-280 BCE AE 20 Athena-Elephant Spaer 129 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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